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Farrell Files: Pitt and Penn State Pettiness

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One thing struck me interesting this past week when it came to Pitt football. Here’s the latest Farrell Files Pitt edition.

First off, I was fascinated with the small drama surrounding James Franklin at Penn State not including Pitt in his final coaches Top 25. As we know, Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi picked Penn State No. 9 in the final poll, and some felt it was petty of Franklin to leave Pitt off. But let’s be clear — the coaches don’t talk about this stuff. Obviously, Narduzzi would include a 11-2 Rose Bowl Penn State team but it’s not like what number he’d rank them is something they talk about. In fact, in my experience, coaches take about two minutes with this stuff as they just don’t care.

But there is something here. Narduzzi had Penn State ranked 9th which is the lowest of any coach who ranked the Nittany Lions as they finished No. 7 overall. Out of all the coaches it happens to be the Pitt coach who ranks PSU the lowest. I know coaches take two minutes with these but it clearly pains Narduzzi to put Penn State anywhere so he chose as low as he felt he could get away with. That’s a rivalry.

And Franklin? I’d say it’s not a huge deal but to have UCLA No. 21 and snub Pitt? Again, two minutes of effort but a clear exclusion with meaning. A depleted Pitt team shocked UCLA in the Sun Bowl en route to a 9-4 season. A case can be made for UCLA to be in the Top 25, and they did finish No. 21 overall ahead of No. 22 Pitt, but to leave Pitt off his list entirely following that head-to-head win seems odd.

So, take it for what you will. Coaches polls are kinda dumb until you see things like this. Franklin and Narduzzi renewed this rivalry in 2016 with Penn State winning three of the four from 2016-2019 and the teams continue to battle on the recruiting trail. Penn State is deemed the blue blood and many fans claim Pitt isn’t a rival. While Pitt fans may not admit it, but they feel disrespected as PSU wants so badly to be rivals with Ohio State and Michigan but have to settle for Maryland while Pitt has a great rivalry with West Virginia in the Backyard Brawl.

If these small coaching snubs in a dumb poll speak to anything it’s that we should push for this game every season. It’s hard now with conference expansion and teams scheduling easy wins, but two power programs in the same state play every year in places like Georgia, South Carolina and Florida every season so why not this one?

Sandy Schall, Coldwell Banker
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NotMarkPantoni
NotMarkPantoni
15 days ago

Polls are filled out by SIDs.

Burton Tee
Burton Tee
15 days ago

PSU culture is rotten to the core. They still live off JoPa’s corpse and think they are Alabama.

Their handling of their rape culture is disgusting as they turned a blind eye and tried to redirect their revolting behavior to sports.

I expect nothing less from Sandusky U.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
15 days ago
Reply to  Burton Tee

shi*t coddles men who beat women as long as they work with the strength coach a bit longer during the week. I expect nothing less from woman beater U

Rooster
Rooster
15 days ago

Joe knew and Franklin knows about the football team gang banging and has done NOTHING about it.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Rooster

duzz knew at MSU about Nassar and his atrocities (equal or worse than Sandusky)

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

Snow Cone U. is disturbing to people around the world, yet their fans still worship Jerry and Joe. How so very Sick!

Pyler Talko
Pyler Talko
14 days ago

Stupid reply .

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Pyler Talko

No it isn’t

Cignetti & Friends
Cignetti & Friends
14 days ago

Yea it is…creep. Duzz wasn’t in a position of authority at MSU. The ones like Paterno & the other enablers…..WERE !

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago

where did I say duzz was in power? duzz knew

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

Isn’t time for your root beer float?

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

no, but now I want one!

Rooster
Rooster
14 days ago

Nothing worse than Sandusky. The worst scandal in the history of college football.
PSU should have received the death penalty.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Rooster

should Michigan get the death penalty for Dr. Anderson scandal? Michigan paid 490 million to settle that horror.
Mike Haywood, Hayes…woman beating at pitt is a long time tradition

Wlat 910 Radio and the Big Beat!
Wlat 910 Radio and the Big Beat!
15 days ago

Come on OCD, you act like a Pedo state troll

Reese26
15 days ago

That’s because he is and he’s a twit.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Reese26

oh my, words hurt
h2p!

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

The weirdos at Un Happy Valley will never recover from the atrocities and cover up’s. Yes, the reputation is set in stone, and nobody likes them. The cultists are sick and so is their new coach.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Denny

never recover? Thriving University and 11 win team/Rose Bowl champs. Do you know shi*t hasn’t won a NY6 bowl in 41 years. Such a mediocre program

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

I saw a USC fan a at the Rose Bowl (the one PSU lost) with a tee shirt that said “Joe Knew”. It’s everywhere.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

no you didn’t

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago

no way…
h2p!
#lockthegates
#pattsignal

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

James, Jerry, and Joe – The Three Creeps!

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Denny

duzz and Nassar were great friends at MSU

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

That’s a stretch, besides; the news all around the world is all about the perverts at PSU.

Pyler Talko
Pyler Talko
14 days ago

That was a stupid comment .

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Pyler Talko

nope

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
15 days ago

pitt wants so bad to have this rivalry, PSU is unrivaled and 107k at home games laugh at the jv team putting 20k in the Steelers stadium (Penn State triples that for their spring game)

Burton Tee
Burton Tee
15 days ago

NSYC sold millions of albums. Doesn’t make them a good band…

If you are referring to the Johnson issue, I think a lot of Pitt fans agree with you. He should be in jail. But the difference is that the PSU sickness went on for years and was not an isolated incident, that was covered up by the school.

H2P

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Burton Tee

who is this NSYC you speak of, I’ve heard of NSYNC but not your favorite band.
Are you a pitt fan? What is the Johnson issue? I’m referring to the Hayes issue where he beats women (I’m sure it’s not the first time) and just has to do a few extra heavy reps with the strength coach

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

PSU is a joke. They are always in the news for serious crimes and other atrocities. I talked to a Michigan fan who despises PSU more than Ohio State. Yes, let’s rename it to Penitentiary State University!

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Denny

Always on the news? Last broadcast I saw was PSU THON raising millions while pitt promotes women beating

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Denny

a real Michigan fan would never despise PSU over OSU. It’s like saying a shi*t fan despises UNC over WVU

H2Palko
H2Palko
15 days ago

Penn State enrollment nearly triples Pitt, so it’s not surprising that they have a larger alumni base and student section. With that being said, when you look at all sports as a whole, Pitt and Penn State are neck and neck.

https://nacda.com/services/download_file.ashx?file_location=https://s3.amazonaws.com/nacda.com/documents/2023/1/13/Jan_12ConferenceStandings_Update.pdf

Last edited 15 days ago by H2Palko
Pittband
Pittband
15 days ago
Reply to  H2Palko

Check to see which school has the larger endowment. Three times the enrollment should mean three times the endowment. It doesn’t.

Denny
Denny
14 days ago
Reply to  Pittband

Most of the endowments are for soda jerks and snow cone bozos.

Chuck
Chuck
14 days ago
Reply to  H2Palko

There’s also not a damned other thing to do up on the tundra than attend a cult gathering football game.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Chuck

the only thing to do around the pitt campus is try and avoid crime and shootings/drugs

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  H2Palko

Won’t be clicking on that, if you want to post I will read. What other sports do you speak of (most don’t matter)? Wrestling? Hoops?
I’m sure you will say women’s volleyball (insert chuckle)

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

Does Franklin wax his cue ball in the locker room before he runs onto the field?

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

not sure, always looking sharp and perfectly dressed so he might

RonDon
RonDon
15 days ago

And yet here you are, commenting for the millionth time on it. Typical of a Penn Stater to look outward, but not inward. Enjoy the cult life.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  RonDon

and you respond, so easy here

Rooster
Rooster
15 days ago

Unrivaled ? Not when you can’t beat the Big 2.
Penn State is a cult and a diploma mill in the middle of an area populated by northern rednecks.

RonDon
RonDon
15 days ago
Reply to  Rooster

I’m from northern PA, Penn State is hardly redneck comparatively haha. In fact, they would probably take offense and do whatever it takes to prove you wrong.

Pittband
Pittband
15 days ago
Reply to  RonDon

Education will do that.

Rooster
Rooster
15 days ago
Reply to  RonDon

The description is: Pittsburgh and Philadelphia with Alabama in the middle.
One thing though: Joe never beat the Bear at Alabama. 🤣

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Rooster

409

Jane
Jane
15 days ago
Reply to  RonDon

There redneck face the facts!!

RonDon
RonDon
15 days ago
Reply to  Jane

I’m a hillbilly not a redneck. I know what I am and I’m not sure what facts you proclaim to be informing me about. State College is nothing compared to Northern PA and I loathe Penn State. Most everyone up there roots for PSU though, that line of thinking kind of goes hand in hand.

Denny
Denny
14 days ago
Reply to  RonDon

Penn State is a Hick School much like Eastern Kentucky. Ain’t that so!

Pittband
Pittband
15 days ago

When are you going to come out as a niter? If I go on a PS site I identify myself as a Pitt grad. Are you ashamed that you’re a niter?
I want nothing to do with WV or PS ever. 50- years will do that.
I understand why JoePa hated Pitt. We treated PS like dog poopy. In a hundred years, revisit a meeting but not before then.

Jane
Jane
15 days ago
Reply to  Pittband

No schooling… he from them hills!!!

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Jane

I absolutely love everyone talking about me. I think 4-5 people follow me and reply to everything. Awesome!!
h2p!!!

Denny
Denny
13 days ago

I agree. You are good for business and I endorse it. Keep em’ coming!

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

You got it Denny, I always look out for my big fans like yourself!

Wlat 910 Radio and the Big Beat!
Wlat 910 Radio and the Big Beat!
15 days ago

You are a Pedo state troll, go back under the rock you crawled out from

Student section
Student section
14 days ago

Franklin is just like Sandusky

Joeknew
Joeknew
14 days ago

Because there is nothing else to do in cow town.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Joeknew

you can tip cows I think?

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

Penn State surpassed Miami as the most despised university in America. That says it all.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

show the data and poll or it didn’t happen

Reese26
15 days ago

Look,Pitt plays WVU every year even though it gains them nothing. Why? They recruit for the same players, just as Pitt and State Penn do every year. Why won’r milkdud scheduled Pitt? Because losing to them destroys their superiority complex, and they just can’t have that.

Does Pitt run a run playing the hoopies every year? Of course they do, but it’s an established rivalry and they honor that. Apparently State Penn’s superiority complex prevents them from doing so.

Kind of why Pitt stomps them when it comes to in state recruiting

Pittband
Pittband
15 days ago
Reply to  Reese26

We dropped WV when we left the Big East or more correctly the Big East dropped us. AD Scott Barnes renewed this series to fill seats and quickly quit. May he roast in hell. Playing WV cost us a shot at the ACC championship this year and likely every subsequent year because of injuries sustained during this game. Look at the non conference schedule for Georgia next year, it’s pathetic. But we play Cincinnati, WV and Notre Dame before conference next year. I’d be surprised if we lose less than a half dozen starters before our 1st ACC game. North… Read more »

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Reese26

shi*t stomps PSU in-state recruiting? Where is the top recruit in PA (5* OL J’Ven Williams going)? You can have your twin walk on 225 OL

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

Sure, there are a good many schools that are disgusting hick schools for morons, but even those have better reputations than Pervert State.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

pitt campus is in a crime riddled, drug fueled cesspool of a city. they play in a rented stadium in front of 20k fans.

Thomas McGraw
Thomas McGraw
14 days ago

PSU own’s Pitt Rents. I am a Pitt fan, and they just don’t draw consistently even when they have successful seasons. They could build their own, but would still have problems filling it. Maybe build a small 40k capacity but would still have only 2 or 3 sellouts a season if thats counting opening day, even when they had their own stadium they HAD they had trouble filling that too. That goes back to Majors and Jackie Sherrill as well. I wish they would build their own, the only thing stopping it, is the SPACE on campus for one. I… Read more »

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
14 days ago
Reply to  Thomas McGraw

sign of a jv program when you rent. I’m sure the Steelers want that mediocrity out.
49k, right up there with UConn

Cignetti & Friends
Cignetti & Friends
14 days ago

The JV program has produced more high impact NFL players than Ped State could ever dream of. Clearly an underachieving place. For the Dairy College.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago

if you have all this high impact talent why don’t you stack championships? jv program

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

It’s too bad that the Joe Pa Statue wasn’t smashed to pieces. You would think that it has been put away due to shame but no, fans like you worship it.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

409

Denny
Denny
13 days ago

Joe was also a pervert.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

Best College Coach Ever
Succes With Honor
Unrivaled
409
107k
Peachy Paterno
Happy Valley

What’s your favorite Dennis? (Denny is a kids name so I’m now renaming you Dennis)

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

PSU is a damaged institution, much like any other ruin!

Cignetti & Friends
Cignetti & Friends
14 days ago

Just shows what a punk Franklin-stein truly is.

Denny
Denny
14 days ago

I wonder if Franklin was one of Jerry’s kids.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

Never saw him on the telethon

Last edited 13 days ago by On Campus Stadium Please
Denny
Denny
14 days ago

The NCAA should have dropped Penn State from all sports, and let bull dozers smash the stadium midgets dressed as soda jerks desecrate the Joe Pa Statue.

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

But they didn’t
107k
unrivaled

Denny
Denny
13 days ago

You are fun, and this comment section benefits from your input!

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
13 days ago
Reply to  Denny

Yes Denny! Now you are an official member of Team OCSP. Might be in line for VP?

Benedum 12th Floor
Benedum 12th Floor
13 days ago

I didn’t read this article nor do I really care to because all I’ve heard my entire life (23 years) from psu fans is “we’re not rivals” so why even bother with something like this? I know more people that root for both pitt and psu regardless of the college they went to. They aren’t playing for another 20+ years so why does it even matter? On a side note I don’t understand all this “unrivaled” talk then proceed to go out of your way to make it a rivalry lol

On Campus Stadium Please
On Campus Stadium Please
11 days ago

For a youngster you were making some very mature points until the end. I’ve said from the beginning there is no rivalry from the PSU fans. pitt desperately wants it to be so they can fill the Steelers stadium for a game (if PSU ever allows them the chance to step on the field again with football royalty)

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