The demise of the Pac-12 is on, and the remaining four teams are looking for an escape.
After a conglomerate of schools prepared to leave the condense, a race to the finish line began to try and find a new rights deal to hold the group together.
It failed.
Washington and Oregon joined the Big Ten and Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah left for the Big 12 in the span of hours.
Washington State, Cal, Stanford, and Oregon State remain in the Pac-12 as the only member institutions for next year’s athletic schedule. That could soon change.
Pete Thamel of ESPN reported Monday that in the next 24 hours, calls will be held to discuss the additions of Cal and Stanford. One of the calls is for ACC presidents and chancellors and the other for athletic directors.
Many options are still being discussed and the AAC has expressed interested in adding any of the universities to their conference.
A new media rights and TV contract was a significant reason why the Pac-12 has completely fallen apart and continued the chaos of movement in college athletics. Most of the changes are taking effect in 2024-25.
Going out to the Bay Area is a long flight and multiple time zones. Jet lag and frequent flyer miles will be accumulating at rapid pace.
Do the words “carbon footprint” or “climate change” or “carbon offsets” mean anything to all of the many universities (particularly the Big10 which now stretches from Rutgers to USC & UCLA and from the Universities of Washington and Oregon to the University of Maryland)? Universities which are supposed to be in the vanguard of efforts to protect the planet are somehow able to dismiss the environmental impact implications of their insane realignments. As Pete Carroll lamented recently, there is going to be a lot missing in the storied traditions and treasured rivalries that have been so much a part of… Read more »
News flash for you Barry…the power brokers don’t care about the environment when there is money to be made. They impose rules for the rest of us to follow while they fly around in their private jets. Al Gore is the father of this movement and he has been lining his pockets for decades. Do you think he drives an EV?? Lol!
Not to mention most of the “climate change” research has proven to be nonsense. The Sahara Desert is shrinking b/c of expanding green areas. CO2 emissions are lower now than 800,000 years ago. Give it up bro.
You are a blatant liar!
Is adding PAC 12 leftovers really going to do anything to strengthen the ACC versus the emerging super conferences? Or is it just going to hasten the departure of FSU and Clemson?
Stanford is hardly a leftover. From 2009 to 2018, one of the elite football programs.
Now do i want any other of the PAC 4. No. In fact Scott Barnes of OSU finally got what he deserved after wrecking Pitt basketball.
Fair enough. Probably my east coast bias showing.
Cal hasn’t been relevant in football, really relevant, since the late 1940’s, last appearing in a Major Bowl Game (Rose) in 1958 but were only 7-4 that year, got trashed by Iowa. Stanford on the other hand, has been in 3 Rose Bowls since 2010, as well as an Orange Bowl and a Fiesta Bowl. And has a great Athletic Dept, despite the Tree. lol So my plan would be get Stanford, minus Cal and perhaps ND seeing how things are going with the Big10 could be convinced if they along with Stanford join the ACC. The TV contract could… Read more »
agreed. I think if they add Cal and Stanford they are doing it to renegotiate and try to get 3 – 5 million per school – that would be the minimum. They would also come in at a discount for a certain time period for sure. so the pie could increase for everyone else by a few million. At least it is something to work with in opening up the “we want more money” conversation with ESPN. if Notre Dame joined due to Stanford, i think the share is bigger than 5-10, even if you let ND keep whatever they… Read more »
Yep Stanford & ND is the optimal play here. Stanford & ND have been playing each other every year in football since 1997. So there is a connection there, like Pitt had/has with ND. Likewise BC & ND. Syracuse a little too. Those
connections need to be used to get ND into the ACC for football and with that
I most certainly think you could snare Stanford. And you’re at 16 in the ACC for football, with a New Bigger TV contract that also keeps Clemson & FSU happy.
ACC just moved to the “pod” format. add a couple more out west and there is their pod. 3 games relatively close, like Pac 12 footprint close. Then of other 5 games, two or three are away. It’s not super absurd given the new pod format. This comment is with football in mind, no idea about the other sports. they would have to be similarly formatted to keep travel down as much as possible. no need to have entire east and west divisions when you have the pods.
Additionally the ONLY way the ACC will be able to increase the Confernence/School payouts is by getting ND to join the conf for Football (they already in for all other sports) and Stanford for perhaps football only. So the olympic sports don’t have to travel to the West Coast. Stanford could put their other sports in the MW or WCC. And they get a reduced pmt of say 50% for first couple years.
I’d be ok if it was football only
reports that the ACC had planned to meet to potentially absorb 5 – 7 Pac 12 schools prior to the Big 12 swooping in. Either the ACC is not serious, or they are not prepared. They should have these schools vetted by now. They should know what ESPN would offer with the addition of each school. I am sure the B1G knew exactly what value Washington and Oregon would provide a month ago, if not longer ago so they could hold a vote and act in a moments notice. Same with the Big 12 and their acquisitions. I am not… Read more »
ACC has been behind and will always. Pitt should be begging to the Big 12 to get in….they ain’t gonna be in the SEC or the Big 10
Pitt turned down the Big 12, way back when. When the big 12 had to then WVCC. How’s that turned out for them ? Irrelevant in both main sports.
ACC is a much better place to be, than something with UCF, UH, UC and other AAC schools.
We’ve seen how a Conf Commissioner can make a huge difference. The PAC 12 Commissioner (Kliavkoff) got totally outmaneuvered by the Big 12 one (Yormack).
I’m not so sure this new ACC commissioner is very good either or has the best interests of the ACC at heart. He’s not an ACC guy or a Southerner so that worries me. He’s a BG1 guy having graduated from Illinois and having been the AD at Northwestern for 13 years. And that worries me even more.